Daily Archives: August 4, 2014

Remarks With Democratic Republic of the Congo President Joseph Kabila Before Their Meeting

Remarks

John Kerry
Secretary of State
Treaty Room
Washington, DC
August 4, 2014

 

SECRETARY KERRY: I don’t think we need these big, formal podiums, but let me – it’s my great pleasure to welcome President Kabila of the Democratic Republic of Congo to Washington. I’m very, very happy he’s here. He received me in May on my trip to the D.R.C. We then talked about the efforts that he is making with respect to strengthening democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

And we’re very grateful to him for the efforts that he has made, the leadership that they’ve offered to help deal with the problems of the FDLR and the problems with the M23 group, which with his military effort and MONUSCO, they were able to help disarm. That process is continuing and it is a process that will help bring peace and stability ultimately to the region.

We also talked about economic development and the future. We have a lot to work on and we look forward to a good conversation today. Thank you, Mr. President, for being with us. Thank you.

PRESIDENT KABILA: Thanks a lot, Secretary of State. Of course, first of all, I am, myself, and my delegation glad and happy that we finally meet again in Washington, as I promised I would come for this particular summit. And I’m glad that on the sidelines of this particular summit that we’re going to raise, once again, the three or four issues in as far as the situation is concerned, not only in the Congo but the region.

But it’s worth noting that since we met, I believe one, two months ago, the situation has continued to evolve and move forward in the right direction, and that now the Congo is living the era of peace and that we are moving towards stability and long-term stability in all sectors – not only security but also economic development and the development of the region as a whole.

So once again, I’m glad that we’re here as per the invitation, and I hope that in our discussions we definitely are going to raise those issues and chart the way forward in our relations. Thanks a lot.

SECRETARY KERRY: Thank you, my friend. Thank you, sir.

Madamu (cyangwa se da) Bwana Havuganirimfura Ndiyunze arashaka kutubwira iki?

 

Nyuma y’aho nandikiye inyandiko nise “Ese FDLR yashyize intwaro hasi cyangwa ni tactique militaire?”  uwitwa Haganirimfura Ndiyunze yansubije asa n’ugaragaza ko hari ingingo zo muri iyo nyandiko atishimiye. Kutagira ibyo twumvikanaho nta gitangaza kirimo, ikibazo cyaba ari ukundi bimeze. Ariko ubisuzumiye hafi usanga icyo yari agamije mu nyandiko ye mu by’ukuri  aho kuvuguruza izo ngingo yarazishimangiye. Cyakora ibi yabikoze mu buryo na we adasobanukiwe.

  1. Ingingo ya mbere yamubabaje ngo ni uko Gahunde yavuze ko FDLR nta base arriere ifite.

Na we ni ko abyemeza ariko agasubiza amaso inyuma mu myaka 20 ishize akavuga ko FDLR yateye ibitero bigera kuri 200 ku Rwanda ngo ndetse ibigera ku 10 byagarukiye ku Ruyenzi na Kamonyi! Niba ibi byaranabayeho, byitwa kurata inkovu z’imiringa. Muvandimwe Haganirimfura rero ndabizi umutima usobetse amaganya ntusobanura amagambo. Ariko rero jya ugerageza kuvangura impitagihe, indagihe n’inzagihe. Iyo base arriere kuba yarabayeho sibyo biteye ikibazo ahubwo wagombye kwerekana ko uyu munsi ihari. Sinkeneye ko umbwira aho iherereye, ibyo si business yanjye, icyo nkeneye cyanshimisha kigashimisha n’abandi Banyarwanda ni ukuvuga uti twebwe twihaye gahunda yo kubohoza u Rwanda none twagabye ibitero 200 dufata Gisenyi  cyangwa se dufata u Rwanda maze tugushimire ko mwageze ku ntego mwiyemeje. Naho kuvuga ngo tumaze imyaka 20 tugaba ibitero ntacyo bigabanya ku bubabare FPR ihoza ku munyarwanda wo muri Nshiri na Giciye, muri Gishoma na Gashora cyangwa se mu Mutara na Mataba.

Hari n’aho uvuga ko FDLR yarinze impunzi. Ni byiza ni ibyo gushimirwa. Ariko rero reka nkwibutse ko intego yayo itari iyo kurinda impunzi mu mashyamba ya Congo (n’ubwo na byo nta wundi wabishoboye). Ahubwo ‘L’ iri muri FDLR isobanura Liberation. Niba Liberation yaragezweho rero bitwereke. Cyakora njye mbona ntayo akaba ariyo mpamvu Ishema ry’u Rwanda ryavutse kugira ngo naryo ritange umusanzu waryo. Ni muri urwo rwego “ Hari ubundi buryo FDLR yafashwa”.

  1. Ngo Gahunde yavuze ko nta politiki FDLR igira!

Muvandimwe Haganirimfura jyewe si ndi umuvugizi wa FDLR. Na we nturi we. Cyakora ubwo wigize we, twereke iyo politiki maze Abanyarwanda bayishungure barebe ko hari aho yabaganisha heza. Mu byo uvuga rero biragaragara ko iyo politiki nta na yo. None se ko uzinduwe no kumvuguruza ukisubiriza ijambo rimwe gusa ngo “irahari” urumva hari iki wunguye abasomyi?  Ngo politiki ya FDLR yatumye babasha kurongorana n’Abanyecongo? Mujye mureka gutera urwenya. Iyo ntego se nayo yari irimo? Cyakora ntibintangaje kuko abasirikare bafite ipeti rya soldat akenshi ntimushobora no gusobanukirwa programme politique igenderwaho. Kubisobanura rero biharire Gen Byiringiro.

  1. Ubutumwa bwa Haganirimfura ni ubuhe mu by’ukuri?

Gutukana: Uyu mugore cyangwa se umugabo yabonye urubuga rwo gutuka abo yise ibihutu by’inda nini. Yahereye kuri Mzee Faustin Twagiramungu ngo wibagiwe icyo ubuhutu ari cyo! Nuko akomereza ku bandi Anastase Gasana, Theobald Rwaka, Habyarimana Mukaru, Pasiteri Bizimungu, Rwigema, Nsengiyaremye Dismas na Kanyarengwe. Reka nibutse ko FDLR yasinye amasezerano yo gukorana na Faustin Twagiramungu mu cyo bise CPC kandi  ngo “ari igihutu cy’inda nini”. Incredible, isn’t it?

Gucecekesha abandi: Mu nyandiko y’uyu mu soldat ngo “Hari abantu batagomba kugira icyo bavuga kuri FDLR”! Ibi niba ari byo utegereje nta byo uzabona. Igihe cyose umuntu ku giti cye cyangwa se ishyirahamwe ryaba irya politiki cyangwa se iricuruza amateke ryigaragaje, ntiriba rigishoboye kwihisha. Iyo ridashaka kuvugwa rifunga ibikorwa byaryo amagambo agashira ivuga. Ngo ni bahindure bajye bandika ku bitareba ubuzima bw’abantu ? Uteye ubute cyane.

Uzongere kwandika urangije amahugurwa, wige kubanza gusoma  hagati y’imirongo ibiri kwandika ikinyarwanda no gusobanukirwa igishushanyo kiri inyuma y’ikigaragara. Ibyo niba bikunaniye rero ikomereze ujye ukomera amashyi mugenzi wawe Sergent Romeo Rugero Jean Paul, wagira ngo ni mwe mwenyine  mugize FDLR. Cyakora n’ubwo hari uwavuze ngo abafana iyo bagiye mu kibuga haba akavuyo, njye ndakeka ko iyo bigenze bityo uwashaka abafana yabakuzamo imigeri, abakinnyi bagakina bisanzuye.

Chaste Gahunde